SO....You know I'd have to take a minute to write up a little response to Nancy Pelosi's comments about the CIA 'Water-boarding' scandal. So Nancy claims that she was briefed ONLY once about the techniques of torture and interrogation, but that she was told that those techniques were not being used at that time.(2002)
I believe that is probably exactly what happened. She was NOT told that is was being used but she was told that it had been used before. She was told water-boarding was legal, but not being used.
It reminds me of plenty of previous political answers being picked apart. A.Bush and Weapons of Mass Destruction and what defines good intelligence vs bad intelligence B. Bill Clinton and what constitutes 'sexual relations' with a woman? C. Nixon and the Watergate scandal. The list goes on and on and on....its what politicians do... they say something...then they clarify their previous statements to reflect the current public opinion.
Rick Sanchez hit the nail on the head with his arson anallogy, and the blame should fall on the Bush Administration and those who okayed the torture. The torturer Ali Soophan(?) even admitted that water-boarding didnt even work. (So much for Dick Cheney's statement that it saved millions of lives) Ali goes on to say that Al Queda prepares these terrorists for much harsher torture, and so water-boarding is extremely slow or unsucessfull. Sounds to me like water-boarding is the chinese finger trap of torture.
Regardless, the people who committed this torture, and those that ordered it, (no matter how lame a technique) should be brought to justice under the Human Rights Act.
I think the only way to define the torture methods and the knowledge of the politicians involved is to take them and attempt to extract the truth through the same torture methods that they applied to the supposed terrorists. In other words, hog-tie Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, Nancy Pelosi, and whoever else was involved and water-board the truth out of them. If it doesnt work we'll all know....and if it DOES work..well then we'll all know.
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I believe that is probably exactly what happened. She was NOT told that is was being used but she was told that it had been used before. She was told water-boarding was legal, but not being used.
It reminds me of plenty of previous political answers being picked apart. A.Bush and Weapons of Mass Destruction and what defines good intelligence vs bad intelligence B. Bill Clinton and what constitutes 'sexual relations' with a woman? C. Nixon and the Watergate scandal. The list goes on and on and on....its what politicians do... they say something...then they clarify their previous statements to reflect the current public opinion.
Rick Sanchez hit the nail on the head with his arson anallogy, and the blame should fall on the Bush Administration and those who okayed the torture. The torturer Ali Soophan(?) even admitted that water-boarding didnt even work. (So much for Dick Cheney's statement that it saved millions of lives) Ali goes on to say that Al Queda prepares these terrorists for much harsher torture, and so water-boarding is extremely slow or unsucessfull. Sounds to me like water-boarding is the chinese finger trap of torture.
Regardless, the people who committed this torture, and those that ordered it, (no matter how lame a technique) should be brought to justice under the Human Rights Act.
I think the only way to define the torture methods and the knowledge of the politicians involved is to take them and attempt to extract the truth through the same torture methods that they applied to the supposed terrorists. In other words, hog-tie Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, Nancy Pelosi, and whoever else was involved and water-board the truth out of them. If it doesnt work we'll all know....and if it DOES work..well then we'll all know.
Please Comment
Thanks,
Off the Grid
In effect, yes. The decision of waterboarding resides with the Bush Administration. I hope you caught her further "clarifications" today. Calling the CIA a liar......oh nw that one may break your bones.
ReplyDeleteThe story outside the story is that Pelosi was only elected witha 60% majority for speaker. Like Obama, it wasn't the landslide that we have heard of. There is 40% of the dems that support Hoyer. Also, with 2010 elections rapidly approaching, the members with constituents that are not going to be happy that the ranking Democrat did nothing to try and stop "torture" could pressure a vote for Hoyer over Pelosi.
The story is no longer about so called "torture", but now about who lied. Nancy really stepped in it on this one. In the rush to bring the Bush Admin. to "justice" over this, they may have brought down their most powerful member.
For example....the story was all about Pelosi today, hardly any mention of Bush admin.
Pelosi is quickly becoming the owner of waterboarding.